tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post5268539668560056916..comments2023-04-05T02:58:06.303-07:00Comments on Macrofluff: Candidates for Central Arizona Water Conservation DistrictRhymesWithOrangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13286545868199457106noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post-8562833899410397112018-10-19T18:28:57.362-07:002018-10-19T18:28:57.362-07:00Slim the reason is that the top 5 vote getters wil...Slim the reason is that the top 5 vote getters will win. If you vote for more than two then your 3rd and 4th choice may end up getting more votes than your top two and push them out of the winning. Best to only pick the ones you really want to win. Here's an example<br /><br />Choice 1 has 199 votes<br />Choice 2 has 198 votes<br />Choice 3 has 200 votes<br />Choice 4 has 198 votes<br />Choice 5 has 200 votes<br />Choice 6 has 199 votes<br /><br /><br />If you vote only for your first and 2nd choice then the counts are 200, 199, 200, 198, 200, 199 so your favorites pull ahead. But if you vote for all four then it looks like 200, 199, 201, 199, 200, 199 and you lose your 2nd favorite and end up with choice 3 instead. <br /><br />The next person comes along and doesn't vote for your first two choices but DOES vote for your 3rd and 4th choice plus a couple others. Now the counts look like this 200, 199, 202, 200, 201, 200. Your choices are getting further away from winning because you voted for more than 2 and your less desirable choices end up pulling ahead. <br /><br />Multiply that by a 1000 people voting for 4 or 5 candidates instead of 2 and it has the potential to change the entire outcome. <br />10/19/2018 Annie Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127627987127514648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post-82123848391964283182018-10-19T18:22:31.334-07:002018-10-19T18:22:31.334-07:00Slim the reason is that the top 5 vote getters wil...Slim the reason is that the top 5 vote getters will win. If you vote for more than two then your 3rd and 4th choice may end up getting more votes than your top two and push them out of the winning. Best to only pick the ones you really want to win. Here's an example<br /><br />Choice 1 has 199 votes<br />Choice 2 has 198 votes<br />Choice 3 has 200 votes<br />Choice 4 has 198 votes<br /><br /><br />If you vote only for your first and 2nd choice then the counts are 200, 199, 200, 198 so your favorites pull ahead. But if you vote for all four then it looks like 200, 199, 201, 199 and you lose your 2nd favorite and end up with choice 3 instead. Multiply that by a 1000 people voting for 4 or 5 instead of 2 and it makes a significant difference.Annie Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127627987127514648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post-63040984065419199972018-10-15T15:09:16.838-07:002018-10-15T15:09:16.838-07:00I don't understand the "just vote for two...I don't understand the "just vote for two" strategy. How does that increase the likely hood of the top two winning? Voting for another three candidates doesn't take votes away from the two good candidates. And more importantly, if neither of the top two candidates get enough votes, then by not voting for the lesser candidates you are increasing the likely hood of the wingnuts winning. Where is my logic going wrong? In fact, it seems more important to defeat the bottom five then to elect the top two. A top-two win will still only be a minority voice for reason and common sense, but any single wingnut win will increase the wingnut tilt of the whole enchilada. <br /><br />If you vote only two and those two lose, that is the same as not voting at all.Slimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07885976269336447988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post-89746868157823531392012-10-25T10:32:34.693-07:002012-10-25T10:32:34.693-07:00I am a utility consultant and also share your gene...I am a utility consultant and also share your general philosophy re: conservation.<br /><br />I think your top 3 are worth a vote rather than top 2. If I had to pick a 4th it would be Guy Carpenter.<br /><br />I agree with the other commenter that there is no clear No. 5, so I advocate the top 3 or top 4 as listed.86https://www.blogger.com/profile/02452193469447162603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post-5102510993796040402012-10-25T10:26:07.854-07:002012-10-25T10:26:07.854-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.86https://www.blogger.com/profile/02452193469447162603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post-16848313470598103142012-10-24T17:31:10.866-07:002012-10-24T17:31:10.866-07:00Vote for only the top two! That's my vote.Vote for only the top two! That's my vote.RhymesWithOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13286545868199457106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post-42828403657216531512012-10-24T14:56:53.738-07:002012-10-24T14:56:53.738-07:00I think Lisa Atkins kept some of her default score...I think Lisa Atkins kept some of her default score because I didn't get enough info and she got some _default_ scores averaged in... I skipped that article from 2010 -- probably should have re-read it.<br /><br />I don't remember what gave Minieri an edge, but like I said, if I decided to vote for five I would refine the scores.RhymesWithOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13286545868199457106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5910523163031970481.post-51926908170247108452012-10-21T11:30:33.542-07:002012-10-21T11:30:33.542-07:00Hi, why do you rank Lisa Atkins tied with Carrie H...Hi, why do you rank Lisa Atkins tied with Carrie Hamstra and John Minieri higher than Hamstra? From the limited info online it seems that Atkins may be a "tea party wingnut"? http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/10/10/20101010tea-party-arizona-water-panel-race.html I agree with your top 4, but can't seem to decide between Hamstra and Minieri (and there's not much info that I've found other than the AZ Central website).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com